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Big Business Versus Photographer – Social Media Destruction

Big Business Versus Photographer – Social Media Destruction
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You know, nothing grinds my gears more than a company that has the means to pursue image licensing, stealing an image. It’s even worse when that company is one dedicated to another creative field where theft of intellectual property is rampant.

 

hot899

 

Well Hot89.9, A top 40 Radio Station based in Ottawa, Canada, did just that. Here is the image they stole and the ad they used it in:

The Photographer, Barbi Guild Cameron, of Barbara Ann Studios who is a local to the station, and potentially a listener, contacted the station management, to pursue proper licensing of the image.

Here is the reply as posted to Barbi’s Facebook page.

“The Vice President of NewsCap Radio offered me $40. When I turned him down, he emailed me the following:”

Barb you were kind enough to provide us with a few definitions. Here is one I just looked up:
extortion
NOUN The practice of obtaining something, esp. money through force or threats
SYNONYMS Blackmail-exaction

You are obviously a very talented photographer, I would stick with that. Extortion is not your thing.
Cheers
SB”

The response is what has left the entire photographic community OUTRAGED. With Hot 89.9 turning off comments on their Facebook Page, people from all over the world have taken to the recommendations area of the page to voice their displeasure. With Barbi’s original Facebook post, at the time of this writing, having been shared over 1,300 times, we sincerely hope that the message gets out that you don’t pick on the little guy(girl). They have lots of friends willing to step up and fight the good fight

We fully support Barbi’s fight against Hot89.9, we want you to do the same.

Only through constant publicity, will companies learn that when we all stand together, we will be heard, and we won’t be bullied or belittled into submission.

Like I said, it grinds my gears.

UPDATE:

We’ve received a LOT of feedback since posting this article, from THOUSANDS of people, who firmly reside on both sides of this issue. There’s not too much middle ground here.

Some have chosen to attack the character of the photographer due to a past conviction. Some have related stories of dealing with the photographer. And some, (mostly fellow photographers) have stood fully in support of her.

Let’s be clear here.

We think the way both parties handled this was a case study in how not to deal with a copyright violation. Taking it to social media, before consulting with a professional, experienced in dealing with copyright law, is a move both parties should have made. They didn’t, and we’re all left with the mess, to endlessly debate various aspects of this situation.

If you feel you have been infringed upon, first and best thing you can do, is separate the emotion, and consult with someone experienced in matters of copyright law.

But at the end of all of this. Creative people have to stand together, and stand up for each other when this happens.

The radio station was caught with their hand in the cookie jar. And should have taken ownership, and made restitution right away. Stating that they normally pay between $40-150 for stock photography doesn’t apply here. This was not stock. This was taken and used illegally, and only once confronted, did the representative make any kind of apology or offer.

All the other information brought to light as a result of this; from the prior conviction, to the stories of dealing with that photographer, and anything not related to the issue at hand is unnecessary and unrelated to the theft of the image.

Our interest primarily lies in bringing events like this to light and starting discussion.

We thank you for your feedback. Remember we will always be on the side of protecting copyright and the rights of creative content creators. That’s what the origin of this article is.

  • Seshu Badrinath

    I posted my thoughts on their FB page. Sad day when a photographer has to ask to be paid.

  • Alicia

    Nothing much surprises me anymore, but I will be glad to post my thoughts as well and share this with whoever I can. Appreciate the info.

  • Dan in RVA

    Agree 100% with the principle, but before we get too worked up about this particular case I would like to know if this is the same Barbara Cameron who stole $40K from an Ontario school district in 2012.

    http://www.recorder.ca/2012/01/25/teacher-stole-40000

    If so, we should file this under bad things happening to bad people and then get on with our lives.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000488755691 Jay Gough

      It’s not the same person.

      • JSmith

        sadly, yes it is the same person. :( Barb is a teacher and she made a mistake that will follow her the rest of her life. Sad to see it coming out this way.

        • Jay Gough

          So, then I have to ask, even if it is the same person, how does one relate to the other? The radio station did wrong. And it’s completely unrelated to whatever was done before?

          Dan in RVA, I want to know how you justify the actions of the radio station for what they did?

          • JSmith

            They don’t. Some people just play dirty. Should she be paid for her image? 100% yes and $40 is insulting and so was the email she received.

            Seems that some people are wondering & have issue with her calling out a company about theft, when she stole over $14,000 from her fellow teachers and school board. Add to it that no one has seen what she wrote to them or asked for. Regardless, everyone is making up their own minds and it has affected hot 89.9 and Barb in more ways than I think any of them could have imagined. The whole thing is horrible.

          • Jay Gough

            Agreed.

        • http://www.facebook.com/andyouwillknowmebythetrailofdead Michael Woods

          It’s not the same person. The photographer is from Nova Scotia originally, not Kemptville, Ontario.

      • JSmith
    • catsloveme

      If it is, has nothing to do with what happened here. She owned the photo…doesn’t matter where it was posted, what it was used for….they didn’t ask her permission to use it. And being what they are, they should have known better.

  • Craig in Van

    Theft is theft, this radio station is dead wrong. Playing the game they are playing proves they are douchebags – I wonder how their advertisers feel about who they are in bed with…?

  • http://www.facebook.com/harry.nowell.9 Harry Nowell

    Thanks for sharing.

  • Stephanie

    Another side of the story; seems like fault lays with both parties.

    http://www.facebook.com/TheNewHot899/posts/434681159940613

    • catsloveme

      Her fault? Ah, no. The radio station’s fault. Had they done what they should have known they should do (and being a radio station, they are not ignorant to copyright laws), and that was to ask her permission before stealing the photo for their use, then the situation wouldn’t have escalated like it has.

  • kortnie

    please look at hot 899s facebook page. it appears this lady has left quiet a lot of their emailing out. they did not offer 40$. they said they usually offer anywhere from 40-100. she also left out the fact that she demanded $2.000 dollars from them for the photo that has now been removed from the presentation. see both sides before you decide someone is fully to blame

    • catsloveme

      The blame lies with the radio station. They, being in the business they are, should be fully aware of copyright laws. They did not contact her for permission to use her photo. They broke copyright law.

  • catsloveme

    Still on the side of the photographer. The business they are in, they should be aware of copyright laws. They screwed up. Offering compensation after the fact is too late.

  • Anon
  • giancarlo

    The woman in question, Barbara Cameron, is a despicable human being! She was a friend of my wife. I met Barbara when she was going through her legal issues with the school. My wife insisted that we hire her as a show of support of her new business. I never liked Barb, but my wife had known her for awhile and kept insisting that she was just a misunderstood woman who made a few mistakes. And so, we hired her. I never trusted this woman. I insisted on reviewing a copy of the contract. We paid extra, $3000 extra, to include a clause that ALL photos, AND copyright would belong to us. There would be a high profile guest at our wedding and I was worried that she would exploit those images. She agreed to the conditions. We paid. We signed. We had our wedding. She kept her word… For a year. And then, I saw a photo of the wedding ring I had designed for my wife on her Facebook timeline. I went to her site, and saw actual photos of my wedding! I emailed her and her response was that the photos she published were not taken by her, but by her assistant, and therefore, were excluded from ownership by me. I was shocked that she would exploit our special day in such a disgusting way. I reminded her that it was my wife who was always in her corner giving her support. Her response was “business is business”. She then threatened to expose how I had murdered my wife if I did not leave her alone. My wife passed of an illness, she was not murdered. Barbara knows this. I had to hire a lawyer to get my photos taken off her despicable website. Hot 89.9 had her pegged correctly, she is an extortionist. She is an attention seeking disgusting woman. She exploits her own kid’s health issues for sympathy and donations. She makes insane and wild accusations of others that are completely baseless and unfounded. For those supporting this woman, you have no idea who she is. There is no doubt in my mind that she somehow created this whole situation.

    • Anon

      I am sorry you had to go through this with her.
      Karma will be sure to visit her soon.

    • Jay Gough

      Sorry about your experience. But it still doesn’t excuse the actions of the radio station.

      Dragging her name through the mud on something completely unrelated lends nothing to this conversation or this specific issue.

  • Melanie

    Yes, she should have received some type of financial compensation (negotiated by her and the station) for their using of her image without permission HOWEVER she attempted to play a really dirty game and now all of her secrets are coming out.

    She left out key information of the conversations she had with Hot 89.9 and spun it to make herself look like a victim. $2000 non-negotiable! Where was that mentioned anywhere in her claim to be bullied by them? Sneaky little Barbi.

    Does the fact that she was convicted of stealing $40 000 from the school board relevant to this situation, maybe not but what is relevant is that she is a shady character and many, many, many people are making it known.

    AND, for those of you that she has tricked into thinking it isn’t her and that there is someone else with her name… WAKE UP… it is her.

    http://weddingpalace.ca/exhibitors/barbara-ann-studios.aspx?s=1126

    I am happy she is getting a taste of her own medicine because she has been so nasty to so many people. Potential clients will steer CLEAR of her.

    • anex

      I feel bad for her partners in the “Third Floor York” Studio venture.
      They certainly do not need this kind of bad publicity.
      Barbara Cameron has harmed not only herself but innocent bystanders and colleagues.
      https://www.facebook.com/ThirdFloorYork/info

  • Jimmy

    I think it a standard ‘stock industry’ practice to charge a thief a rate higher than the actual usual usage fee.

    I think my children and most readers of this have the technology to record the station ‘Hot89.9’ and rebroadcast it without the advertising … I wonder what they’d think of my‘wedding music’ business using ‘Hot89.9’ as the basis …

    … as to her other business methods if Giancarlo continues to tell his story in various forums her business will surely suffer …

    • Dan

      Giancarlo is a troll….Its a fake name, along with a fake Facebook account (which was opened yesterday) to tell fabricated stories about the photographer in question. All this just to further run someones name through the mud. What a shame that it has come to this…As for Giancarlo, I surely hope that karma catches up with him/her (whoever it is behind the sham).

  • ANON

    Though I agree that what the radio station did was wrong, I also think that she handled it horribly. I have “known” this person for over 20 years. She is (as one person described her) “a despicable human being” and I honestly have no sympathy for her or this situation. She was a bully 20 years ago and it doesn’t surprise me to see that things haven’t really changed. Karma is a Bitch but not as big of a Bitch as she is.

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